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Feel free to leave comments in regards to . . . . anything. Concrit that needs to be forwarded to other players, concrit for the mods, concrit on the game, concrit on the Doctor (since that is practically another character). Everything is welcome, blatant flaming will be used to roast marshmallows and make s'mores.

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Firstly, again, Lady has not had a relationship with anyone, this open, for a while. There's bound to be confusion and hesitation on her part, because, to be blunt, she's lacking her mother, who she was so blatantly close to in canon, to usher her along. So Lady's left on the fence and fritz.

Secondly, she trusts him, because he's told her things (like his brotherly problems) with him. Family problems is something she has common ground with. While she'll discuss it with him, interaction beyond that is slow, at best. Since he hasn't exactly acted out to harm her or anyone, this also adds to the fact she confides in him.

She's shut herself out, and because she's so fresh out of canon, by accepting her new name and Dante in, metaphorically speaking, she's learning to live again, and she's slowly moving on from her mother and father's deaths. She, herself, knows she has second-guess Dante, and because of him, she does re-evaluate people now, that includes his brother. So I don't see why she wouldn't look at Vergil differently, the same as Dante.

So, in all honesty, it's not like the two officially hooked up for anything. This has been transpiring for over a month, and considering both characters are young and have restricted themselves, yes, confusion abound. But the process and level of how it has happened hasn't been rushed, in the least. It's mostly curiosity of a kid, nothing more, and by the looks of things, it doesn't look like they'll be moving onto anything physical (romantically) for a while.

Edited 2009-11-28 01:12 (UTC)

Considering her repeated declarations in game that she trusts only two people, being Vergil and Red Hood, I would not consider her to be receptive to trusting others. Based entirely off of game interaction, it appeared that she and Vergil had some sort of history, while it's turning out that there really was none.

Rushed seems an appropriate term when a situation goes from enemies that barely know each other to attraction and complete loyalty/trust within a month, particularly considering her occupation and his species.

Fair point, but again, her history with Vergil is on the lie Arkham told her, nothing more. There's nothing else beyond that, and she has accused him (ever so passive-aggressively) of being tied to her mother's death. That is all she cared mostly about.

I already explained that Lady doesn't care what his lineage is, it's pretty much obvious she doesn't; if that were the case, she'd be kicking Dante to the curb, too.

Which reinforces the point that he is a stranger/enemy she barely knows. What she does know is that he has tried to open a gate to hell, and that he has tried to kill his own brother.

In regards to not caring about his lineage, that seems contradictory to her position as a demon hunter that has declared that she still wants to eliminate all demons. Dante is a lone exception to this rule, and his show of compassion would not carry over to Vergil.

I am, once more, going to have to politely disagree, and I feel completely backed into a corner. In which she has gotten to know better, in this game. I am really having a hard time seeing the point you're trying to make, after I've provided cutscenes and lists of links to threads to prove otherwise. He has already said even to her that it's birthright, that his father's power is to protect Dante.

And no, in the end of the game, she says in her narrative piece (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xamf8_xQ6Aw), that she understands there are demons who are as human as HE is. If this is the case, then she wouldn't take in Trish in the later future. So I kind of don't understand what you're trying to get at. The only time Lady ever jumps the gun in game is when Arkham lies to her, her feelings and emotions are riled up. Lady's not an idiot, she's not going to go in guns ablazing, that would certainly insure her death. And if Vergil was that much of a danger, I do believe he would have killed her by now for the sake of her being her father's daughter.

The IC-ness of this interaction is still considered questionable. No evidence has given sufficient backing for a relationship as serious as this one (Lady breathing down the neck of people looking funny at Vergil is a serious relationship, official or not) without significant buildup or development. With the appropriate development, it has the potential to be absolutely fascinating, but it has skipped directly to the closest of friends with no solid foundation. The point is not that the relationship itself is impossible. The point is that it was not been developed properly. Half of the IC concerns stem from Vergil's interest in Lady, considering the information available on that character.

Alright, I honestly don't... want to argue this over the moderator's journal. I will say this: The reason why I am so very strong in my stance, is because, honestly, my HMD has been ignored. If anyone was concerned about what was going on with my character, I would sincerely and utterly appreciate it if a moderator would kindly direct them towards where my character can be given concrit.

With this concrit, I have not been given suggestions on how to change things between the two of them, so I'm kind of left on the fence over here. I mean this in the nicest way possible... please contact me. I have given my stance and evidence to back this up. I will take the concrit into consideration, but I still disagree with it.

Neither side has given us suggestions to improve, and it rather seems like conflict of interest. I'm not looking to start a fight, here, I would be pleased to justify my characterization with Lady and her CR. So I don't know what to say here, other than settle it with me either e-mail, IM, or my HMD.

I'm sorry, guys, but this is... making me extremely uncomfortable. Not because of the characterization, the fact I have to sit here back and forth and do this, when I have a place off-sight to talk about my characterization.

Edited 2009-11-28 02:53 (UTC)

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